07 / April
07 / April
Is Taxation Coercive?

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says that taxation is voluntary. So why has a Wisconsin SWAT team surrounded a man's property after he did not pay $5,647 in taxes? Why did the IRS auction off Willie Nelson's property? Why did the IRS try to put Wesley Snipes in jail? When you hopefully pay your income taxes before next Tuesday, think about Harry Reid's tortuous logic in the above video and how such an argument--that taxation is voluntary--might go over with an IRS auditor.

posted at 01:46 PM
Comments

Dan,

Big Picture, I agree. On SWAT, I guess they came into play when the shots starting coming form the house.

Posted by: Marty on April 7, 2008 06:19 PM

The problem with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi et al, is that they think that we're all stupid a-holes thus they continue to make these erroneously absurd statements. Elitists libs make me sick.

Posted by: asdf on April 8, 2008 09:12 AM

In fact, I love the state of Taxachusetts so much (and the fact that it allows for little wiggle room for vanilla deductions), over the last three tax years I've voluntarily donated a nice incremental chunk of my income to it. But you know, it's for the children. Or, so they tell me. So, it's alright. As long as it's not for my children.

Posted by: asdf on April 8, 2008 09:45 AM

I guess I'm amazed that people take anything Reid says seriously. That guy is just out there.

Posted by: Ancient Mariner on April 8, 2008 11:22 AM

Marty: That isn't what the article says. It looks like the man starting "to play" (fired shots) because the SWAT team had "come to play" and had already started to. The SWAT team with an armored vehicle and gun surrounded and started to invaded the man's home.

Now, in this case the man is clearly _wrong_ and the government clearly _right_. But let's not assume that the violence was started by him. The government's action is inherently coercive from the first: pay or be punished, and punishment here is forcibly depriving him of his home and then kidnapping and imprisoning him to boot.

Posted by: Venezuela on April 8, 2008 11:50 AM

@ Venezula
Shots were fired on Monday, at officers. Then on Thursday SWAT was used. So, it appears that they wanted to serve him and he shot at them.

like I said Big Picture, I agree. I think income taxes are unconstitutional. But, read the article, this is not Federal Taxes, it is local property taxes. local not federal. So, as a localist states' rights guy, I think heshould pay his taxes. And if he fires at cops they should bring in SWAT.

Posted by: Marty on April 8, 2008 05:20 PM

I highly recommend the old Edward Hermann movie called "Harry's War." In it Harry finds his home, assets, etc. frozen and siezed by the IRS. Harry storms a TV show to declare "war" on the IRS. By the end of the movie, soldiers are outside Harry's door with gins and tanks.

A classic line from Harry...

"Who told them they could tax us? I certainly didn't.

The film was mandatory in my advanced income tax class back at Murray State.

Be well,

Sponge

Posted by: Sponge Daddy on April 9, 2008 06:55 AM

It all depends on what your definition of the word "voluntary" is.

Posted by: B. Clinton on April 11, 2008 02:11 AM
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