18 / October
18 / October
Worth Repeating #36

"The constant repitition of the Litany and the often heard environmental exaggerations has serious consequences. It makes us scared and it makes us more likely to spend our resources and attention solving phantom problems while ignoring real and pressing (possibly non-environmental) issues."
--Bjorn Lomborg, The Skeptical Environmentalist, 1998

posted at 01:36 AM
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One could say the same for terrorism.

Or any issue for that matter that doesn't fit one's idelogical view of the world.

Posted by: HeHe on October 18, 2006 02:30 AM

Yes, hehe. (You know that a tu quoque doesn't disprove your opponent, don't you?) Anyway, I think the point is that environmentalists have a history of exaggeration, a history of crying wolf, a history of dire predictions that never come to fruition.

I agree that the War Party has done this a bit about terrorism, but the reason they are more successful electorally with their exaggerations is that everyone knows that Islamic terrorists exist and we have in recent history seen their work.

Posted by: skeptic on October 18, 2006 10:03 AM

I agree enviornmentalists have a history of crying wolf, particually their Malthusian predictions of resource scarcity.

But past performence is not nessecarily an indicator of their correctness now.

They are correct now on global warming, and it is a far bigger threat to the security of the US.

GB survived daily German bombing during the war.

The fact is that the US could have a 911 every two years and still survive, still persevere.

We just can't say that about global warming.

Posted by: HeHe on October 18, 2006 10:49 AM

Why wouldn't the US be able to survive global warming?

Posted by: obi juan on October 18, 2006 11:47 AM

"They are correct now on global warming..." And they wouldn't have said that ever other time, too? See, that's the trouble with crying wolf.

It is not in my power to believe you about this time, given an even cursory knowledge of the history of environmentalist scares.

Posted by: skeptic on October 18, 2006 05:43 PM

And the idiocy/ignorance of the resident pontificator.

Posted by: Ancient Mariner on October 18, 2006 06:47 PM

You know someone's trying to sound smarter than he is when the break out the word "cursory".

Posted by: HeHe on October 18, 2006 10:19 PM

You know someone's lost the argument when he has been reduced to ad hominems.

Posted by: Ben-T on October 18, 2006 10:20 PM

You know it was a joke not an argument.

Posted by: HeHe on October 18, 2006 10:28 PM

Dude, if you think 'cursory' needs 'breaking out', you aren't as smart as I thought.

Posted by: skeptic on October 18, 2006 10:39 PM

That's funny you mention that about Skeptic's use of cursory HeHe, as I was thinking the same thing about your iterative use of the term "anthropogenic" in earlier threads on global warming.

Posted by: Bruce Wayne on October 19, 2006 12:17 AM

"I was thinking the same thing about your iterative use of the term 'anthropogenic' in earlier threads on global warming."

Indeed. It was noticeably out of place. I keep waiting for him to drop "antidisestablishmentarianism."

Posted by: Ralph on October 19, 2006 08:16 AM

hehe bruce.

Yeah its pretty much the same thing.

It'm at least half joking though when I use that instead of "man-made", hope it is with "cursory" too.

Posted by: HeHe on October 19, 2006 08:47 AM

Hehe -- What would you think of a guy who made fun of your use of "persevere" in you initial post?

Posted by: skeptic on October 19, 2006 10:26 AM

"Initial" post? Is that some kinda fancy word for "first"?

Posted by: Ralph on October 19, 2006 12:05 PM

And I did the same HeHe by carefully choosing to use "iterative" in my comment above. I am glad you let me slide on that one though!

Posted by: Bruce Wayne on October 19, 2006 12:09 PM
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