22 / July
22 / July
Sammy or Dave?

Van Halen's double-disc greatest hits package, The Best of Both Worlds, hits stores this week. The compilation includes material from the David Lee Roth years: "Ain't Talkin Bout Love," "Jump," "Dance the Night Away," etc. It contains about an equal number of songs from the Van Hagar era: "When It's Love," "Right Now," "Why Can't This Be Love," etc. There's a lot of great songs in the Van Halen catalogue. Both of these incarnations of the group put out some awesome music. So, I ask FlynnFiles readers: Sammy or Dave?

posted at 01:30 AM
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Sammy always left me sort of cold: after Dave left, I followed his solo work (with the amazing Steve Vai, former sometime-guitarist for Frank Zappa), and found it much more inspiring (as music, of course, not a moral compass).

I vote for the original: DAVE!

Posted by: Le Gadfly on July 22, 2004 03:23 AM

Dave - this shouldn't even be a question.

Posted by: Ron on July 22, 2004 06:51 AM

Sammy - There is no doubt that even though Dave's time with the band was great, Sammy and his incredibel range of vocals allowed Eddie to do things he had only dreamt about doing while Dave was in the group. Sammy took the group so much further musically and creatively because he was capable of so much more vocally.

Posted by: Steven on July 22, 2004 08:08 AM

Steve is just a contrarian. Roth is THE only choice. Without him, VH would never have gotten off the ground.

Posted by: MB on July 22, 2004 08:42 AM

I would have to say Dave, just because when I think of Van Halen, I think of Dave.

But Sammy is great too. And far less annoying than Dave.

I did see them in concert about a month ago here in Washington. I was right down by the stage and even gave Sammy a five.

Posted by: Claytdog on July 22, 2004 09:19 AM

Is this somekind of sick joke? I can't believe this is even a question?!?!?

Gary Cherone baby!

Posted by: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on July 22, 2004 09:59 AM

Wait a minute...gave Sammy a five? Did you stick it in his G-string or something? What does that mean?

Posted by: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on July 22, 2004 10:33 AM

Nothing so special as that. Just a simple high five, in other words, the action of slapping one's palm to the palm of another.

Posted by: Claytdog on July 22, 2004 11:57 AM

Like the others before me, there should be no question. Dave is the man. "Everybody wants some" - 'nough said.

Posted by: beerocrat on July 22, 2004 12:57 PM

Again, I dissent. Like The Godfather II and Ms. Pac Man, the sequal was better than the original. Sammy is the man.

Posted by: Dan Flynn on July 22, 2004 02:23 PM

A tale of two genres. VH was HARD ROCK with Dave. VH morphed itself to POP with Sammy. Hard Rock has since been cast off by major labels. Dave is the wise choice if you like to rock. I choose Dave.

Posted by: RD on July 22, 2004 02:47 PM

SAMMY WHO?

Posted by: LOVEY KERRY on July 22, 2004 03:11 PM

SAMMY WHO?

Posted by: LOVEY KERRY on July 22, 2004 03:12 PM

I saw VH with Dave in 1984 and they were as bad as it gets. Swigging iced tea from a jack bottle...guitar solo... bass solo... drum solo... fake improv and banter amongst a band that obviously hated each other and a tired album of songs (Hot for friggin teacher?) That ruined it for me. Sammy was great. Had some great songs and two good albums. Then they got tired. Years have past and just the other day I heard Everybody wants some while I was driving home late. I started to drive fast, really fast. I didn't see the construction signs and the next thing I know I am in a ditch being called down a white hall by an old indian. I lived but am in a wheelchair which I control with a straw. Oh how I hate them both now.

Posted by: J. Hugh Bahls III on July 22, 2004 04:43 PM

Sammy

Posted by: Finbar on July 22, 2004 07:11 PM

My roommate Jen votes Dave but thinks that it is almost a toss-up given the great difference in musical styles of the two eras. I somehow missed out on 80's rock so I have no vote. But if you were to ask whether Black Flag was better with Dez as vocalist or with Henry Rollins, then I would have an opinion.

Posted by: Brian on July 22, 2004 10:07 PM

So, Brian: Dez or Rollins?

P.S. People who listen to Black Flag tend to have a lot of personal issues, sort of the inverse of the problems that afflict Avril Lavigne listeners.

Posted by: Dan Flynn on July 23, 2004 12:05 AM

van hagar.

Posted by: Mike Krempasky on July 23, 2004 12:11 AM

Dave - Sammy took himself waaaaaaay too seriously.

Posted by: DJDrummond on July 23, 2004 11:27 AM

Implying I have personal issues that are the inverse of Avril fans after I heaped praise on you in your "Great Moments in American Liberalism" post above; that is low.

Avril fans problems would be something like the mall being closed on a Saturday, or their mom insisting on picking them up in front of school rather than 5 blocks away. Black Flag concerts would start riots. So I am not too terribly insulted actually.

Anyway, the first four years of BF (1977-81) before Rollins took over as vocalist are the best years of that band. Dez was my fave singer (although a couple other guys sang in those first years). Greg Ginn, the main songwriter was at the top of his game then and they pretty much single-handedly reshaped the Californian music scene. Besides if it wasn't for Black Flag then we never would have gotten a chance to see Henry Rollins suck so bad at acting in films like Johnny Mnemonic.

Btw, I saw the second best band to ever come out of Boston last weekend, Mission of Burma. They may play second fiddle to the Pixies (I know I am ignoring Aerosmith and a slew of other bands) but were probably almost as influential on late eighties and nineties so-called alternative, and indie rock.

Posted by: Brian on July 23, 2004 11:43 AM

I wonder who they are going to vote for.

Posted by: John on July 23, 2004 05:31 PM
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