14 / October
14 / October
Peter Singer's Progeny

English animal-rights leaders have given their imprimatur to protests targeting the children of biomedical scientists. Where did they get such ideas? One inspiration for animal-rights extremism, my article on TownHall explains, is Princeton University Professor Peter Singer, who gives his okay to parents killing their newborns but objects to schoolchildren lunching on turkey sandwiches.

posted at 01:07 AM
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Some thoughts.

1) If you choose not to eat meat, that is your perogative. Forcing others not to eat meat is not only morally wrong, it is lunacy.

2) I come from Pennsylvania, a big hunting & fishing state. Most hunters & fishers, including myself, believe in the conservation ethic. (If you kill an animal you are obligated to eat it. You don't kill so much of the same species it can no longer survive.) Furthermore, I am against the abuse of animals (dog fighting, cock fighting, physically beating or neglecting animals). This is what I consider responsible.

3) Killing an animal for meat or for public safety (rabid animals/"mad dogs"/ etc.) are not abuse. There is a legitimate reason for these types of killings: survival. Killing an animal for no reason whatsoever is abuse.

4) As for those who say, "We get meat in a store. There is no reason for huntin," I say, "Try venison. You can't get that in a store!" Some types of (very tasty) meats you have to get in the wild.

Posted by: Paul on October 14, 2004 07:16 AM

Reason 4 gives the impression that your hunting is a luxury rather than something have to do with your Reason 3, survival. You can survive quite ok without venison. Forcing others to not eat meat is no more morally wrong than forcing people to drink fluorinated tap water.

Posted by: Elmo on October 14, 2004 07:29 AM

"Forcing others to not eat meat is no more morally wrong than forcing people to drink flourinated tap water."

You are making a silly comparison.

The difference is that the decision to flourinate tap water is made via a process in which the public may participate. That decision is made by a body elected by the people in a meeting or meeintgs that are open to the public. You can express disagreement on this issue. Even after such a law is passed, you can attempt to change it.

Forcing people not to eat meat require coercion, as opposed to trying to convince people not to eat meat.

So what if vennison is a luxury? If you want to eat it and choose to hunt a deer, then do so. If you choose not to eat vennison (and indeed if you choose not to eat mean), then do not eat the vennison.

My point is: if you choose not to eat meat, fine. Just don't try to force me not to eat meat.

Posted by: Paul on October 14, 2004 09:27 AM


Other living things do not have "rights." Only Man has rights given by our creator. "Rights" come with responsabilities but animals cannot reason so they can't fulfull any responsabilities whatsoever. Their only responsability is survival.

As people become more and more separated from nature they seem to be more likely to ascribe human thoughts and emotions to animals. Newsflash - Nature is not Disney, animals can't think or reason.

"Animal rights" activists frame the "debate" untruthfully. Adopting their "rights" view would have large long term costs to society. They are personally willing to bear these costs. They know others will not. So, the debate is on animal "rights" without costs.

Posted by: Matt Clark on October 14, 2004 12:39 PM

I only buy shampoo that has been tested on animals and I love the steak & chicken combo at my local Sizzler. Meat rules and so does clean hair.

Posted by: Pete Seeger on October 14, 2004 04:09 PM

What`s the difference between a girl and a mouse ? Answer: One charms he's and the other harms cheese.

What's the differnce between a vegetarian and a meat eater? One looks like shit the other looks fit.

Any questions?

Posted by: Uncle Lavender on October 14, 2004 04:15 PM

P-E-T-A:

People Eating Tasty Animals

Posted by: asdf on October 14, 2004 04:35 PM

Other living things certainly do have rights. The Creator created animals right along with man. And rights do not come with responsibilities. A fetus has a right to life inherent only by the nature of what it is, with no responsibilities attached. Animals do not have a right to life, but do have certain rights also inherent in the nature of what they are. Simple rights, like to respect and dignity. When a person is inhumane to animals those rights are violated. Particularly on factory farms those rights are violated a thousand times over on a daily basis. Animals are not human, however some of you treat them as if they were inanimate. Kicking a dog is not the same as kicking a rock.

Posted by: Elmo on October 14, 2004 07:20 PM

Elmo is right. Kicking a rock hurts you, while kicking a dog hurts him! Hmmmm. He's right there not the same.

Posted by: The Bastard on October 15, 2004 09:07 AM
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