17 / March
17 / March
What Lies Beneath the Soil of Barker Ranch?

Forensic investigators have found three sites at a former Manson Family hideout in Death Valley that may contain human remains. A gold prospector who guided Manson Family members through the desert four decades ago led the forensic scientists through the sun-drenched no-man's-land. Using a device that sniffs for chemicals consistent with a decomposing human body, the investigators detected soil that may be hiding dead people. Another device using infrared spectroscopy detected pits beneath the topsoil, suggesting the possibility of a crude grave. The next step? Dig. Who might reside in these sandy sepulchers? Miners, runaways, drifters--the pool of victims is limited. It's not called Death Valley for nothing.

posted at 01:33 AM
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Had an idea that Charlie was a busy little beaver when it came to murder. It's always powerful fun for his type.

Posted by: asdf on March 17, 2008 03:36 PM

Must be creepy to be that gold prospector. Can you imagine knowing that Charles Manson used to be your closest neighbor and continuing to live in the same place?

Posted by: Ben-T on March 17, 2008 03:57 PM

There are murderous crimes where humans kill for a variety of reasons where the motive is, somewhat, understood. That's bad enough. And I think in the right circumstances, we are all capable of that kind of crime. It's the others who actually like murder that are bloody scary individuals. There's no curing or rehabilitating these types.

Posted by: asdf on March 17, 2008 04:18 PM

Is charlie still alive? And didnt they parole those goofy chicks?

Posted by: tagmnbagm on March 17, 2008 04:34 PM

I hate hippies.

Posted by: cartman on March 17, 2008 05:20 PM

TagM: Manson is 73, and as alive and unwell as ever. He would certainly reject the "hippie" characterization, Cartman. His followers made a point of doing so in the 1960s, and decades later Manson calls himself a "beatnik" not a hippie. Indeed, his time in the 1960s was a short, strange trip, as he spent just about every day of it--save for a couple of years from 1967 to 1969--behind bars. BenT: Being the gold prospector at Barker Ranch isn't half as creepy as being George Spahn at Spahn Ranch, the other Manson hideout. In exchange for sex with Charlie's "angels," the blind and ancient Mr. Spahn allowed the family to squat without hassle.

Posted by: Dan Flynn on March 17, 2008 06:06 PM

Spahn was like 80 when he was laying the oak to those girls. Weird. In fact, Spahn named Squeaky for her sound effects whilst he was being more than grandfatherly with her. It's a sick world baby.

One sane thing though is that it's unlikely you'll see Charlie M. getting out in his lifetime.

Posted by: asdf on March 17, 2008 06:37 PM

Maybe they'll find Jimmy Hoffa there.

Posted by: Ancient Mariner on March 17, 2008 06:45 PM

"BenT: Being the gold prospector at Barker Ranch isn't half as creepy as being George Spahn at Spahn Ranch, the other Manson hideout. In exchange for sex with Charlie's "angels," the blind and ancient Mr. Spahn allowed the family to squat without hassle." - Dan Flynn

Didn't know that. Eerie.

Posted by: Ben-T on March 17, 2008 11:32 PM

Did anyone consider the Ballarat Bandit case in regards to the possible remains at the ranch site? This disturbed individual may seem benign on the surface, he did commit suicide when he was cornered, odd for someone who had a beautiful family and no real crimes to run from. He had been randsacking the area for some time, including the Barker Ranch....just some food for thought...
http://desertblog.blogspot.com/2006/02/ballarat-bandit-victims-story.html

Posted by: jackie on March 18, 2008 12:09 AM

More on the Bandit

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Feb-25-Sat-2006/news/6065721.html

http://www.pahrumpvalleytimes.com/2004/07/30/news/manhunt.html

Posted by: Jackie on March 18, 2008 01:23 AM

P.S: Though I want to make clear, as I now realize I didn't before, I am not saying that I think the gold prospector was a creepy guy. I am saying living there must be a creepy experience.

Not so for Spahn,of course.

Posted by: Ben-T on March 18, 2008 01:34 AM
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